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Old 03-10-2009, 02:37 AM
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My guild is having a horrible time killing Vesperon. Could I get some strats on the proper way of downing him? Should we take the portal? Should we just slowly kill him? We're all not ridiculously geared, but I know we're geared enough to do it, just needs some pointers. Thank you!
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Old 03-10-2009, 06:18 AM
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Anhelo,

Can you specify what you're raiding? Sar1,2,3d? 10 man or 25 man? How many people are usually alive and what classes you have in raid?

For example, if you have a mostly caster DPS without a 3rd off tank, you really don't have a choice but to slowly kill Vesperon through Twilight Torment. What I found work best for MY own kill when I did Sar3d25 or 10 is simply taking portal and killing the adds in there.

We have tried just killing Shadron's Acolyte and leaving Vesperon's Acolyte before, and the kill (Vesperon) from 100% - 30% was too much damage for our healer to keep up, especially mixed in with twilight torment and lava burst. I know Kyth has success just killing the drake outright before taking any portals, as she's stated many times in various posts.

Assuming you're doing 3 drakes, we prioritize killing Shadron's Acolyte first since he wont respawn. Then we kill Vesperon's acolyte and hop out the portal. This will buy you 15-30 secs of zero twilight torment which you can use to take a huge chunk of health off Vesperon. Once he spawns another acolyte, just take the portal again.

One thing to keep in mind, before you take the portal you must control/kill all the elementals before taking portal, since having 5+ uncontrolled elementals and the possibilities of more spawning does not bode well for the people outside the portal.

Perhaps if you can be more specific about your problems, I and more people on this board can help in more specific details.

If you will also take the time to read my post on this forum "Please help - Sar3d10" there is a log i put up of what my 10 man raid did to defeat the encounter after tweaking our execution a bit.
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Old 03-10-2009, 08:47 AM
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as Rageous has said, we need more info to give you a correct answer It changes based on 10 or 25 and other factors.
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Old 03-10-2009, 07:37 PM
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We're doing Sarth +2D, we take out Shadron. Everything actually goes pretty smooth until Vesperon lands. Normally all of us are alive up to that point. What seems to be killing us is finishing off the adds before we take the portal. We tried ignoring the adds all together and just going in the portal but by the time the acolyte is dead, so is our add tank because he'd get overwhelmed with adds.

I run with 3 Tanks. Druid on Sarth, Warrior on adds and myself (warrior) on the Drakes. 6 healers, Disc and Pally on Sarth tank, a Pally focusing on add tank only with a shaman doing raid heals and helping out with the add tank when he can, and another pally and shaman doing the same with me. The dps is made of almost nothing but ranged with the exception of a rogue and a dk. We run with about 6 hunters and I hear that their auto-shots alone almost kills them with twilight torment, could running with that many hunters be a problem?

Sorry I didn't give enough info before. Thanks again!

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Old 03-10-2009, 07:41 PM
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Don't do Shad/Vesp, thats like...silly. I'm geussing by your other comments that this is the 25 man version. Your DPS needs to be very aware of their health when TT is up. Raid healing is very very crucial when dealing with TT.

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Old 03-10-2009, 08:22 PM
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What seems to be killing us is finishing off the adds before we take the portal. We tried ignoring the adds all together and just going in the portal but by the time the acolyte is dead, so is our add tank because he'd get overwhelmed with adds.
Hi there, I copied and pasted from my post above. "One thing to keep in mind, before you take the portal you must control/kill all the elementals before taking portal, since having 5+ uncontrolled elementals and the possibilities of more spawning does not bode well for the people outside the portal."

This seems to be exactly your problem. Adds can multiple VERY quickly while most of the raid is in the portal, leaving you to pick up 5-10 adds and killing you. You must prioritize killing elementals first before going in. Also, another trick is to leave 2-3 hunters up top while the raid takes the portal. This will help you in 2 ways 1) misdirecting loose adds to you if they happen to spawn in weird positions 2) most importantly, the hunters can keep enraged elementals under control with a tranq.

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I run with 3 Tanks. Druid on Sarth, Warrior on adds and myself (warrior) on the Drakes. 6 healers, Disc and Pally on Sarth tank, a Pally focusing on add tank only with a shaman doing raid heals and helping out with the add tank when he can, and another pally and shaman doing the same with me. The dps is made of almost nothing but ranged with the exception of a rogue and a dk. We run with about 6 hunters and I hear that their auto-shots alone almost kills them with twilight torment, could running with that many hunters be a problem?
6 healers is definitely not too many. In our Sar25/22, we sometimes run up to 7 healers and we do just fine. Focus your attention on killing elementals before taking the portal, stop attacking and bandage yourself while waiting for a heal when low on health from torment, and spread out and not chain lava bursts to multiple people. Combined this with my suggestion of always leaving 2-3 hunters up top should help you with your problem.

Good luck!
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Old 03-11-2009, 12:24 AM
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We don't. Shadron is the one we kill before we start fighting Sarth. We do it with Tenebron and Vesperon alive.
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Old 03-11-2009, 12:31 AM
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Thanks for the help, you guys! I'll definitely try your sugestions this week.
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Old 03-11-2009, 08:33 AM
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oh ok, I misunderstood your post. Realize that with Vesperon, slow and steady DPS is the way to go. if you try to burst him down TT will kill your raid off
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Old 11-03-2009, 05:44 PM
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I read this cause i am getting the game, it seems better when you say it lol for some reason even though you probably copied and pasted it
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